Shoprocks wrote:Maybe there's a guy who doesn't belong there, so he gets booted from the mission? Having someone weighing them down for a short time could help us show by comparison how competent our guys really are. Just a suggestion. I do agree with what you're saying though.
I appreciate "mixing up the whole WWII era Germans as stock villain cliche" (you phrased it well). If we have Germans, let's not make them devils. You definitely know what you're talking about, but at the same time, that post was pretty harsh.
"Brothers" was just an idea because it's a different kind of relationship.
As for "stumbling into being a soldier," we as civilians have some understanding that war is brutal, but it is also very glorified. People join for a sense of adventure, importance, and duty (they DO go into it thinking they'll be badasses), but these things might fade, depending on the person, as they see what it's really like. I see military recruitment tables at my school every couple of weeks and I'm sure that a lot of the people who are considering it don't actually know what they're getting into, but that doesn't mean they aren't intelligent. Also, they're appealing to students, which kind of answers the question about how a student joins the army.
As for accuracy in injuries and death, I think it's important, but we don't know as much as you. Correct us, but don't attack us for not knowing these off-the-cuff :/
There's not knowing stuff and then there's just stuff that is so bad, that ignores half of everything that was said in previous posts and misrepresents the other half.
I didn't ask how a student joins the army, I asked how a student on a class trip to a war zone magically transforms into Rambo. A student who joins the army gets training. A student on a trip to a war zone pees his pants and dies when he realises this isn't Grand Theft Auto.
Asj wrote:Or is the evil organization thing too animeish or something for a war story?
Hehe...yeah. Having a polarized cast of good/bad is very well-suited for a story that focuses on the main characters' struggles and their eventual victory
, with lots of action and that sort of thing, but if I'm not mistaken I think this group wants something more complex. A crazy amount of factors and clashes must go into a war, that's generally just too difficult to write for (but not for us...right?). I agree that protests would also be interesting, if they fit.
And FINALLY, as for who's animating and acting and all that...I'll get on that and see what we have to work with.
When about will the first animation test be ready? I'd like to know what I have to work with.
I'm not sure about an eventual victory. Wars generally take a long time and unless this is going to be like The Godfather or something with several sequels we should stick to just getting everyone out alive.
There's a fine line between constructive criticism and just nit-picking.
I'm not too fond of the whole "trained killers" idea, but I'll give it thought.
When I hear war story I come to think in lavish detail of a man wandering in the terrains of war. The problem with that would be it would be far too loose are far as plot, but I think we could introduce many different situations. Also when I hear war story, I think of emotional struggle in a quest to come to closure with the decisions a soldier has to make. For anyone who's read the book "The Painted Bird", something like that (that book was devoured, I really loved it).
Yeah, there's also a fine line between incredulous and impossible and 1. ignoring the story's opening which was written two posts earlier and 2. ignoring explanations that were given as to why certain suggestions couldn't work that were explained several times in several previous posts.
Like it or not modern soldiers are
trained killers. They undergo training to overcome the natural aversion to killing another human being. That's the whole point. War doesn't work without killing people.
avian-reader wrote:May I try as an assistant writer? I love the idea of writing from the "bad guys" perspective; I like Sven Hassel's books.
Cool. You can invent the culture of the unidentified airid highland country and/or the warlord and his personal army.
Asj wrote:I think it'd make sense to have at least one teenage character, but not as a main character. Having a teenager lie about his age and join the army because he thinks it's cool, then realizing how stupid and inexperienced he is might be interesting... and how the others get along with him.
Most of the non-US guys fighting are probably teenagers. It's possible to include stuff from their perspective. Whether it fits all depends on how long this thing is.
Chibitiza wrote:Is there going to be a resistance/terrorist faction?
If so, then is it possible to drag a civilian into this? I kinda have this idea in my head of a girl (part of a church whose religion isn't relevant and the girl is completely pacifist) who is a civilian and all of a sudden dragged into the mess by becoming a POW. And then she gets paired with the most battle-crazed veteran soldier and has to deal with him, the violence and death, reality, and her actions (she broke her pacifist pact defending herself because of (Rape as Drama)).
Please provide feed back on this idea. I'm just throwing this idea out there.
Loads of civilians. Such is the curse of modern war where civilians suffer often in greater numbers than armies. I don't see someone giving up ardent pacifism because of a single tragic event, nor do I like the idea of "rape as drama" but I'm sure the resident assistant writer can come up with something.