Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby UrbanMysticDee » June 9th, 2018, 4:55 pm

Bionic parts almost always are nowhere as good as the original. An artificial heart can last a few years, a real heart can last well over a century. An artificial eye can see flashes of light to alert a person that there is an obstacle in the way, a real eye is a super-HD 3D video camera. The only artificial part that offers any improvement over the original is artificial legs for running. They can be made with space age materials that can propel a person much faster than any ordinary mortal can run.

And none of this will change for hundreds of years.

Cloned is the way to go.

Unfortunately nearly all the money is being spent into worthless embryonic stem cells, that have never produced any breakthroughs, rather than adult stem cells which are already have been proven affective in treating over two dozen conditions.

We do need to update the laws in that regard. Cells taken from your own body and grown in culture are no longer your property, they are the property of some mega corporation who can patent your DNA. As such, cells taken from your body can't just be put back in your body, if they don't meet certain criteria. The FDA regulates YOUR OWN CELLS. Once they are taken out of your body they are subject to regulation and if they don't meet certain criteria they can't be put back inside your body. That's total bullshit and needs to be changed.
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby AltCat » June 11th, 2018, 11:24 am

UrbanMysticDee wrote:Bionic parts almost always are nowhere as good as the original. An artificial heart can last a few years, a real heart can last well over a century.

Once they are taken out of your body they are subject to regulation and if they don't meet certain criteria they can't be put back inside your body.


Technically speaking it's not the same heart after that time though, so it could be sort of correct to say an artificial heart has a much longer lifespan.

Still, not yet as dystopic as if they were declared biohazard material and one instantly gets on the international terrorist lists. :?
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby sunseeker25 » June 11th, 2018, 4:24 pm

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Making clothing of extremely fine materials that are very, very strong sounds like it could be untearable, especially if these materials weren't plant fibers but something synthetic. "Electrospinning" is a way of turning polymer fluids into synthetic cloths, so I figure in 100 years this will be a very good product and one that could be made on demand with additive printers, too.
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby sunseeker25 » June 16th, 2018, 4:16 pm

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If we're talking about construction or manufacturing materials, I don't think so. It's the end product, not the material itself that could be a problem. Also, people need to have access to such materials to come up with new applications, so it would be counterproductive to stop them from having them. If, however, we're talking about energy-active materials that could be used for weapons... that might need to be controlled, much like uranium and such are now.
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby UrbanMysticDee » June 16th, 2018, 9:24 pm

Unfortunately, yes. The problem, with absolutely everything government does, extremely strong protections absolutely need to be put in place to place an absolute limit on what can and cannot be banned.

This really is one of those extremely difficult situations that has no good answer. Technically anyone can create Ebola in a lab, or just about any other disease. Genomes can be downloaded and the basic chemicals needed to make diseases are practically free. It's truly astonishing that terrorists haven't actually done this yet.

Some extremely dangerous substances, thankfully, are almost impossible to create (like neutron degenerate matter or antimatter).
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby sunseeker25 » June 25th, 2018, 5:14 pm

Hm, yes. I wasn't even thinking about biological materials, but that is an emerging issue for sure.
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby sunseeker25 » June 25th, 2018, 5:15 pm

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Yes, I do! It's a much more efficient way of creating things and avoids the need to inventory most goods. It also avoids some (if not all) transportation issues for goods, especially for ones that might break in transit. While I'm not sure if every home is going to have a printer, I am pretty sure by then any home could have one, and the economy for printer recipes and designs should be well established.
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby sunseeker25 » July 3rd, 2018, 5:15 am

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NOTE: An ANI System is an "Artificial Narrow Intelligence". By "fully intelligent" we mean it can operate on the same level as a human, but isn't a person strictly speaking.

I would use such an ANI in many ways, such as helping me compile my writing from the dozens of notes I make and suggesting new art styles to look into based on my personal preferences. I'd also ask it to help me manage my schedule and suggest new advertising and networking options. There's only so many hours in a day and I could sure use the help :P
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby JoKeR » July 3rd, 2018, 8:32 am

sunseeker25 wrote:I would use such an ANI in many ways, such as helping me compile my writing from the dozens of notes I make and suggesting new art styles to look into based on my personal preferences. I'd also ask it to help me manage my schedule and suggest new advertising and networking options. There's only so many hours in a day and I could sure use the help :P

What about to get a spouse? And an organizer. :lol:
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby UrbanMysticDee » July 3rd, 2018, 9:25 pm

You could probably use something like that to do a bunch of jobs. Like insurance. Have it look at 10,000 claims to become a better expert at coverage than any human.

I'd have it secretly do my job while I look busy.
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby sunseeker25 » July 9th, 2018, 10:08 pm

UrbanMysticDee wrote:You could probably use something like that to do a bunch of jobs. Like insurance. Have it look at 10,000 claims to become a better expert at coverage than any human.

I'd have it secretly do my job while I look busy.


I'd be concerned that if it can do that, it'll have your job. You know what they say about automation...
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby sunseeker25 » July 9th, 2018, 10:08 pm

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I'm not sure if it will be accepted by most people; controlling devices with your mind seems to be very convenient, but it isn't necessary for most usage. Speaking into a phone isn't really more useful than "thinking" into it, unless you want to be silent; receiving a message telepathically is, similarly, not much better than hearing it. However, if mental control of a device gives you a much better level of control than using traditional knobs, keys, or interfaces, that might be important in those cases. So maybe brain-to-device communication will be something important to specialists but not so much to other people?
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby UrbanMysticDee » July 15th, 2018, 8:29 pm

This is one of those things that to some very extremely small degree is currently possible, but it doesn't work like most people probably imagine, and it's really inconvenient for nearly everyone. Yes, it's possible to program a computer to recognise certain brain patterns and allow someone who is paralyzed to move a cursor and type something extremely slowly, and it's a real game changer, but we're talking about a word a minute, maybe, so it would be pretty much useless for anyone who isn't paralyzed. It's just like how we can "see" rats dreaming about running a maze by programming a computer to recognise their brain patterns while running the maze while they are awake. That's partly how we know that dreaming is essential to translating memories from short term to long term. Still, when you figure that the average person talks at 100 words per minute and with brain-to-device interface a person can at best get one word per minute there's no way brain-to-device will have anything other than extreme niche uses at least for the next century.

That's sending signals. Receiving signals is a whole different can of pandora's worms. If widespread brain-to-device transmission is a century away, brain-to-device receiving is a century beyond that. It's one thing to find the specific brain pattern for moving a cursor, it's another thing entirely to map every individual person's entire library of brain patterns and find out how each individual brain interprets each individual stimulus in order to project even a single discrete image into a individual brain that would probably be as welcome to the recipient as schizophrenia.

It's definitely something cool to write about, but it's more toward the fiction side than the science side for the foreseeable future. I think fully immersive VR will be the next major area of development long before brain-to-device communication.
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby sunseeker25 » July 23rd, 2018, 6:37 pm

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My main concerns are how it would alter one's general perception, and whether it could be turned off. External gear that gives you infrared vision is pretty standard, but something that lets you see power circuits would be something else, and a binary data stream might be overwhelming without some kind of brain augmentation. So I think it would just depend, for me, on the context.
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Re: Utopia Next - Discussion on Future Tech and Society

Postby sunseeker25 » July 31st, 2018, 3:13 am

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I don't have a pilot's license, but if I did, I would want the option to try to fly it if I needed to. If something went wrong my first idea is to let the backup systems get me on the ground intact (whatever method that might be), but at the end of the day I believe in being able to help yourself in all cases. Maybe more tellingly, I wouldn't want to be IN a flying car without a pilot's license and manual controls if I needed them, but that's just me.
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