The Final Fantasy Thread!

Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby eishiya » June 11th, 2016, 1:16 pm

I finally finished Final Fantasy X-2 a few days ago. There wasn't a feeling of achievement, or even a sense of relief for finally finishing it. There was only regret for having played it at all. It had some good features, but overall it just felt so poorly thought out.

But! I played Last Mission and I really liked it! I saw a couple of sunrises playing that game, and I have no regrets :'D It had some annoying guide-dangit parts (the blocked gates; the whole method of getting to floor 80) and a clunky menu system (which I think is just par for course for FF), but overall I had a lot of fun and I'd like to play it again when I have time.
I even enjoyed the story, what little of it there was. It builds nicely on YRP's relationship with each other, and sort of validates/improves on what I think was originally poor writing in FFX-2, which is that YRP never really felt like they "clicked" with each other. It was also refreshing to see a video game story about friends drifting apart and this being conveyed in a positive way.
Has anyone else here played it?
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby Seven Rain » June 11th, 2016, 2:16 pm

I've really been meaning to get back to FFX myself. I've put it off forever because I wanted to wait until I had the PS4 version since I can supposedly transfer my PS3 save to it, (at least I hope I can do so without a Vita,) but I'm ready to give up on waiting for that.
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby Soft Dorito » June 11th, 2016, 11:02 pm

I think the biggest sin I level at X-2 is that they recorded a nice song ("1000 Words") wherein you can still hear her lips move and spit in her mouth. It's the worst way to record a song and you think they'd know to have the microphone a wee bit further back. But to be fair I'd heard every other complaint before I'd ever played it and didn't care too incredibly much for X before (though I might replay it - my friend gave me her old PS2 copy so why not).

Also I bought IX on the PS3 a week ago and a different friend is watching me play it (they don't play FF). We're having fun with discussions about the characters, especially Garnet compared to Tifa/Aerith and princess tropes in general (mostly how she more or less fills them but rather than being a shallow character they took what could have been a total cliche and made her a pretty complex character. When I told her the story almost runs on that she got a little more into it lol.
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby Seven Rain » August 15th, 2016, 10:26 am

Final Fantasy XV got delayed until the end of November.

I feel a little bummed, but can't really bring myself to be angry about it. I've waited for this game for so many years, even though it's changed so much from when it was still Versus XIII, I can wait a couple more months if it means Square is putting as much effort and polish into it as they can.
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby Soft Dorito » December 9th, 2016, 2:05 pm

Seven Rain wrote:Final Fantasy XV got delayed until the end of November.

I feel a little bummed, but can't really bring myself to be angry about it. I've waited for this game for so many years, even though it's changed so much from when it was still Versus XIII, I can wait a couple more months if it means Square is putting as much effort and polish into it as they can.


So how are you liking the boy band simulator now?

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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby Seven Rain » December 9th, 2016, 4:03 pm

Soft Dorito wrote:So how are you liking the boy band simulator now?

It's... Really hard to say. It's bizarre. Like I can't form an actual opinion or preference, only make random remarks and observations.
  • It doesn't feel as "special" as a Final Fantasy should. Probably due to how hard it tries to emulate other modern games. After 14 games, regardless of which ones anyone likes, this is the first one I've played that I felt wasn't trying to be itself from start to finish.
  • The combat is fun, and I'm hoping it'll open up more later since I haven't unlocked the crazy weapon skills and stuff that were in Episode Duscae. Really hoping they haven't been removed/replaced altogether because they made combat more interesting.
  • The characters are pretty fun. I like the bros, though the realism gets a bit too much sometimes. (Gladio can be too much like an actual dudebro, Prompto is quite often a far too realistic annoying geeky friend, etc.)
  • Luna sucks. She was terrible in the movie and from what I've heard about the game's story she doesn't get any better. A damsel in distressed pretending to be tough. A trope that I hate even more than the shamelessly helpless princess characters, because at least they don't feel like they're trying to trick you into believing they're a strong female character.
  • That sort of ties into the next point; I miss Versus XIII. This is not Versus XIII. This is not Nomura's Final Fantasy. This is not a game in development for ten years. Stella seemed like a way cooler heroine than Luna, and everything just overall feels like a project that has been dissected and put back together in someone else's vision. Which is pretty much exactly what it is.
  • The callbacks to old Final Fantasy are awesome. The oldschool enemies, the sprites on the car, Prompto's victory theme humming, Edgar's weapons, the old FF soundtracks to listen to while driving. Yet I can't get into this whole "mixing old FF stuff with a super realistic/modern world" vibe. It doesn't feel wrong like some other parts of the game, but I'm just not feeling it. Preference thing. (It can be amusing, though. What it lacks in cool factor it makes up for in funny moments and the hilarity of FF being realistic.)
  • I've spoiled some story stuff and I'm genuinely interested in it. A lot of what I've heard sounds pretty cool, and I know there's a lot more to it than the simple synopsis...s... I've heard.
  • I'm also excited about the postgame and optional boss fights. I still have a lot to play before I can really judge whether the combat will be fun at the end of the game or if it'll stagnate. It's definitely not Kingdom Hearts-tier, though. Still a great way to handle an action-oriented FF.
  • I don't buy FF games or JRPGs in general to do fucking WRPG missions. My least favorite thing so far is the gorillion NPCs sending you out to accomplish incredibly mundane tasks like retrieving ores or plants, and hunting down dogtags. I really, really could've done without that shit and I hope there isn't any really special stuff at the end of those because I'd rather ignore them completely and stick to the main game and monster hunts, along with the more major sidequests that actually feel like sidequests, as opposed to some NPC's chores.
  • They've recently announced some updates so ridiculously huge and majorly game-changing that I'm probably gonna procrastinate even harder and wait for some of that to be implemented before I go HAM on trying to beat it.

Baaasically... I dunno. It's a cool game, I'm railing on it pretty hard because Tabata made a frankenstein monster out of Nomura's game and it tries too hard to be something it's not half the time, but it's far from a terrible game.
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby Jair Pereira » July 25th, 2017, 3:43 am

Final Fantasy IX for Android is great! Now I have the complete series on my tablet.
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby TheJGamer » July 25th, 2017, 2:40 pm

I want to start playing Final Fantasy, but just don't know where to start. Modern FF isn't going to be an option since I need to buy a PS4 and shizz, and ISOs are pretty hard to work with, so it's going to take a while for me to play the PS1 FF games, which is a shame since I've never played FF7 before and now want to try it because of the hype it's generated. Of course, they have FF7 on Steam, but I'm a bit short on money right now.

Oh, and I heard that FF2 was the worst game in the franchise, so there's that.

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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby Seven Rain » July 25th, 2017, 3:42 pm

TheJGamer wrote:Oh, and I heard that FF2 was the worst game in the franchise, so there's that.

I wouldn't say that. It's a black sheep and has some odd mechanics but it's definitely not the worst.

TheJGamer wrote:Where should I start?

That's always a tough one, but since you're limited to pre-PSX that makes it a bit easier.
I'm gonna recommend the GBA remakes of the NES and SNES games. (I'll forgo the roman numerals here to make this simpler,) 4 and 5 are great places to start, plus the GBA remakes have newer translations plus some added content. They do a good job of capturing the overall vibe of the series, and they're easy to get running because GBA emulation is practically flawless.
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You might want to start with 4, because 5 has a robust Job system that I personally think is more enjoyable if you play some of the other games first, as jobs (like Black Mage/White Mage/Knight/Ninja/Dragoon/etc.) are recurring elements throughout the series, even when they're not customizable like in 5. (That and if you start with one of the best job systems in the series it might be hard for you to move on to games without it.)

After trying those out I'd say move on to FF6, which is widely considered one of the best in the series, or maybe go backwards to FF1, (also on GBA if you'd rather not play the NES version.)

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There's also Final Fantasy Mystic Quest for SNES, which I haven't played myself, (though I've always wanted to,) but I think the whole point of that game was to be an introduction to FF and JRPGs for newer players, so that might be a good starting point for you. I just don't know how many elements it shares with the mainline series. Part of the appeal of FF is the consistency of it's concepts and shared elements.
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby gun21 » July 25th, 2017, 4:21 pm

TheJGamer wrote:Of course, they have FF7 on Steam, but I'm a bit short on money right now.


It's only 12 or so bucks. I think it's a pretty good place to start, I think it's one of the more simple games in terms of actual mechanics.

I started with FF1 with the GBA version, but apparently the PSP version (which is the best) has been ported to Android and IOS. The problem is that they're DRM, so if that's an issue, avoid it.

Also, wholly avoid V, VI, and VII phone ports.

I hear that III, IV, and IX are okay.
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby Soft Dorito » July 25th, 2017, 10:49 pm

gun21 wrote:
TheJGamer wrote:Of course, they have FF7 on Steam, but I'm a bit short on money right now.


It's only 12 or so bucks. I think it's a pretty good place to start, I think it's one of the more simple games in terms of actual mechanics.


It's on PSN too! Oh, and just an FYI, the translation goes from pretty good to "...what?" at random points. But it does essentially walk you through everything you need to know. That's a good thing about PS1 FF is the tutorials were pretty quick and easy (I can't speak about the most current games - I don't have access to them).

I started on 7 and 9, the latter of which is a pretty nice starting point too. The games have similar controls and 9 has a much better translation. The story is also fantastic. You won't quite get some of the references to the past games, but they aren't plot crucial.
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby trenton_dawn » July 26th, 2017, 1:26 pm

Seven Rain wrote:There's also Final Fantasy Mystic Quest for SNES, which I haven't played myself, (though I've always wanted to,) but I think the whole point of that game was to be an introduction to FF and JRPGs for newer players, so that might be a good starting point for you. I just don't know how many elements it shares with the mainline series. Part of the appeal of FF is the consistency of it's concepts and shared elements.


Mystic Quest was the first RPG that I played growing up, and it's extremely different from other Final Fantasy games.
-Battle is turn based instead of pseudo-realtime
-No equipment customization. New equipment is a strict upgrade on your previous stuff and is automatically equipped
-Most spells are simply variations on "deal elemental damage"
-Monsters are visible on the overworld, not encountered randomly
-Extremely simplistic story and characters

Overall, it's a decently fun game on its own (6.5 or 7 out of 10?), but I almost don't consider it as a 'real' Final Fantasy game.

Personally, I think 4 and 7 are the most accessible as they have relatively intuitive combat/leveling systems. 5 and 6 are my favorites but the class system of 5 takes a while to get the hang of and 6 has all that stuff with equipped Magicite determining your level-up bonuses which is pretty counter-intuitive.
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby thelordbaeron » November 10th, 2017, 12:05 pm

Favorite FF? VII is definitely a big one for me, but story-wise it'd be have to be Tactics. That game, in spite of a horrible translation, was a masterpiece and the only tragedy that Square has ever made.

That said, VII crafted my teenage years and overall changed my tastes in a way nothing else ever could. I'm cautiously optimistic for the remake, but the episodic feature leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm a heathen who feels that VI is overrated, and IV is amazing, though the years have not been kind to it.

I'm so glad someone else brought up Mystic Quest, because that was my introduction to FF. I acknowledge it's not the best game but it holds a level of nostalgia for me (and has a kick ass soundtrack).

I played XI off-and-on for 10 years, and now am an avid player of XIV (Lord Nick, Hyperion--hit me up!)

I'm on my 2nd playthrough of XV, as they added more story. I love the game, I just wish it had more cutscenes. Which, frankly, is something I never thought I'd say about a FF game.
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby Soft Dorito » November 12th, 2017, 8:40 pm

thelordbaeron wrote:Favorite FF? VII is definitely a big one for me, but story-wise it'd be have to be Tactics. That game, in spite of a horrible translation, was a masterpiece and the only tragedy that Square has ever made.

Well, for FF games anyway. Chrono Cross' ending could be considered tragic, if only for the implications it places on all the timelines.
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Re: The Final Fantasy Thread!

Postby Seven Rain » November 13th, 2017, 4:12 am

I haven't beaten it yet but from what I've heard FFXV is a tragedy as well, but they were kinda billing it like that for a while anyway.
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