Religion.

[Vitotamito]

my dad believes in the Aesir (Norse Gods)

Your dad is now my idol.

Haha, he's pretty fun yeah. And the stories about the Norse Gods are amazingly entertaining.

A couple of months ago I tried explaining Ragnarok to my dad and near the end of my telling of it, he goes, "Wait, so he put his foot on Fenrir's jaw, and his hands on the top of his mouth and ripped his head in half?"
"Yeah, he just did that."
"Why didn't he do that before it ate Odin?"
"Bloodrage, I assume."
"Okay, that makes sense. Go on."

[gun21]

Transcendentalism.

Oh go build a cabin in the woods, hippie.

Whatever you say, RACIST.

[misuzu]

Transcendentalism.

Oh go build a cabin in the woods, hippie.

Whatever you say, RACIST.

Dude.


Seriously, dude?


Dude...

[Loom]

Spoiler! :

The bible is the same thing as a collection of greek myths, the only reason people take it as THE HOLY BOOK OF ALL KNOWLEDGE is because it's arranged to be slightly chronological. Back then they didnt have science so their reason for everything was god (like any other religion out there at the time). You can tell because the abrupt change from old testament to new testament's teachings are drastically different (one views a vengeful wrathful god as worshipped by the hebrews and the other is the peace loving forgiveness god brought upon by jesus who was their prophet.) this displays a changed mindset and historical change during an age of empire. Hebrews believed their religion was tied to birthright and didn't actively spread it whereas because jesus was born during roman rule, more people were connected under one rule so spreading christianity was physically easier, jesus knowing how people were being oppressed at the time didn't want to spread a religion on a god who would strike them down for their daily misgivings since real life did that pretty darn well, therefore he taught people a more peace-of-mind-peace-of community method he learned during his journey to india.

Oh and there's evidence that the "Great flood" was indeed a world wide event. Korea, China, Hawaii, Greece, The Nordic states and even South american culture has stories of a great flood that once happened about roughly the same time as each other before recorded time.

Uhm... Is that supposed to be news, krazy? XD Are you simply expanding on the point, maybe? As for the evidence of a flood, trying to derive evidence from trying to "date" some homologous oral traditions of floods (humans historically live near water - of course there are going to be stories of recurring, catastrophic floods!) is not a good way to go about it. If you mean there is evidence concerning the geological record, I'll have only to say that I respectfully disagree.

[xkrazydog]

Spoiler! :

The bible is the same thing as a collection of greek myths, the only reason people take it as THE HOLY BOOK OF ALL KNOWLEDGE is because it's arranged to be slightly chronological. Back then they didnt have science so their reason for everything was god (like any other religion out there at the time). You can tell because the abrupt change from old testament to new testament's teachings are drastically different (one views a vengeful wrathful god as worshipped by the hebrews and the other is the peace loving forgiveness god brought upon by jesus who was their prophet.) this displays a changed mindset and historical change during an age of empire. Hebrews believed their religion was tied to birthright and didn't actively spread it whereas because jesus was born during roman rule, more people were connected under one rule so spreading christianity was physically easier, jesus knowing how people were being oppressed at the time didn't want to spread a religion on a god who would strike them down for their daily misgivings since real life did that pretty darn well, therefore he taught people a more peace-of-mind-peace-of community method he learned during his journey to india.

Oh and there's evidence that the "Great flood" was indeed a world wide event. Korea, China, Hawaii, Greece, The Nordic states and even South american culture has stories of a great flood that once happened about roughly the same time as each other before recorded time.

Uhm... Is that supposed to be news, krazy? XD Are you simply expanding on the point, maybe? As for the evidence of a flood, trying to derive evidence from trying to "date" some homologous oral traditions of floods (humans historically live near water - of course there are going to be stories of recurring, catastrophic floods!) is not a good way to go about it. If you mean there is evidence concerning the geological record, I'll have only to say that I respectfully disagree.

Expanding a point. And LoP already stated it was the cause of rising water from coming out of the ice age. These events probably DID happen but are greatly exaggerated. Did the flood swallow the whole world, doubt it, or else no one would have survived (or survived after) since in all of the myths one thing was certain: high ground was spared from the catastrophe.

About Jonah and the fish? Who knows, maybe he was attacked by a shark, survived, and claimed he was swallowed by a whale.
But there's plenty of evidence backing up the existance of Jesus. though i doubt he walked on water. Those disciples of him must have been high off their asses or dehydrated to the point of delirium.

Sucks to be those who supposedly lived in Atlantis.

[Sorrows Neptune]

I'm a Mormon.

Mormonism is a religion I particulary dislike, one reason is reasons is this:

Spoiler! :

The religion teaches people that they should avoid birth control, thus Mormons often will have 4-5 children. So please, if you happen to believe in this detail of Mormonism, ignore it and wear a condom.

Also, I apologize if my anti-Christianity ways are making me sound antagonistic. If so than just ignore me and live life like how you want to. I don't mean to bully anyone or anything.

[Molly-sama]

I'm a Mormon.

Mormonism is a religion I particulary dislike, one reason is reasons is this:

Spoiler! :

The religion teaches people that they should avoid birth control, thus Mormons often will have 4-5 children. So please, if you happen to believe in this detail of Mormonism, ignore it and wear a condom.

Also, I apologize if my anti-Christianity ways are making me sound antagonistic. If so than just ignore me and live life like how you want to. I don't mean to bully anyone or anything.

If you have the resources, what's wrong with having as many kids as you want?

[WMCD]

I'm a Mormon.

Mormonism is a religion I particulary dislike, one reason is reasons is this:

Spoiler! :

The religion teaches people that they should avoid birth control, thus Mormons often will have 4-5 children. So please, if you happen to believe in this detail of Mormonism, ignore it and wear a condom.

Also, I apologize if my anti-Christianity ways are making me sound antagonistic. If so than just ignore me and live life like how you want to. I don't mean to bully anyone or anything.

If you have the resources, what's wrong with having as many kids as you want?

When just looking at numbers, population growth rate. The number of humans on Earth is growing exponentially, and it can be argued that we are overpopulated as it is. Resources are stressed in certain parts of the world, and the dense areas where they're not, they might be one day.

All of this is just speculation, but it need to be considered.

[UrbanMysticDee]

I'm a Mormon.

Mormonism is a religion I particulary dislike, one reason is reasons is this:

Spoiler! :

The religion teaches people that they should avoid birth control, thus Mormons often will have 4-5 children. So please, if you happen to believe in this detail of Mormonism, ignore it and wear a condom.

Also, I apologize if my anti-Christianity ways are making me sound antagonistic. If so than just ignore me and live life like how you want to. I don't mean to bully anyone or anything.

If you have the resources, what's wrong with having as many kids as you want?

I would argue that since fertility rate around the world is in decline it would be more beneficial to humanity to have more children to avoid depopulation. Of course, if you want us to go extinct then by all means stop having children, but if you're the kind of person who likes people having children is important.

[Sorrows Neptune]

I would argue that since fertility rate around the world is in decline it would be more beneficial to humanity to have more children to avoid depopulation. Of course, if you want us to go extinct then by all means stop having children, but if you're the kind of person who likes people having children is important.

But...every source I've been to claims our population is growing. If what you say is true, I have some serious researching to do.

If you have the resources, what's wrong with having as many kids as you want?

The thing is, nobody actually nows what the carrying capacity for the human race is on Earth. It could be 10 billion, or it could be one trillion. Either way, If our population just continued to grow forever and ever, either we would need to colonize in outer space, or a world war would break out.

[Molly-sama]

If you have the resources, what's wrong with having as many kids as you want?

The thing is, nobody actually nows what the carrying capacity for the human race is on Earth. It could be 10 billion, or it could be one trillion. Frankly, I'd rather not find out. Since realistically if we ever exceeded our carrying capacity, it would likely result in another World War. (Since this is a thread about religion, I should probably clarify I say "hell" in metaphorical terms.)

I realize all that, but why shouldn't you if you don't know it would do any harm (or rather, have any evidence it would do so)? All I mean is, if some people want to have lots of kids, right now you really can't say much about it (not that it's a terribly great idea for a multitude of reasons and I certainly don't want to, lol), especially if it's a part of their religious beliefs.

[Sorrows Neptune]

If you have the resources, what's wrong with having as many kids as you want?

The thing is, nobody actually nows what the carrying capacity for the human race is on Earth. It could be 10 billion, or it could be one trillion. Frankly, I'd rather not find out. Since realistically if we ever exceeded our carrying capacity, it would likely result in another World War. (Since this is a thread about religion, I should probably clarify I say "hell" in metaphorical terms.)

I realize all that, but why shouldn't you if you don't know it would do any harm (or rather, have any evidence it would do so)? All I mean is, if some people want to have lots of kids, right now you really can't say much about it (not that it's a terribly great idea for a multitude of reasons and I certainly don't want to, lol), especially if it's a part of their religious beliefs.

I should really get over that habit of editing my posts a lot...

You have a point there. Even so, you seem be implying it's something which can be ignored for the time being, but I think everyone even now should think hard before deciding they want 4+ children.

Of course, this shouldn't scare people from having at least 1-2 kids. A friend of mine also has three older siblings, and it's a pretty well-educated and awesome family. So just to clarify, I don't think having a lot of kids is bad except for the fact that it brings us closer to our carrying capacity, EDIT: if a signifacant number of people are having 4+ children that is.

[Molly-sama]

The thing is, nobody actually nows what the carrying capacity for the human race is on Earth. It could be 10 billion, or it could be one trillion. Frankly, I'd rather not find out. Since realistically if we ever exceeded our carrying capacity, it would likely result in another World War. (Since this is a thread about religion, I should probably clarify I say "hell" in metaphorical terms.)

I realize all that, but why shouldn't you if you don't know it would do any harm (or rather, have any evidence it would do so)? All I mean is, if some people want to have lots of kids, right now you really can't say much about it (not that it's a terribly great idea for a multitude of reasons and I certainly don't want to, lol), especially if it's a part of their religious beliefs.

I should really get over that habit of editing my posts a lot...

You have a point there. Even so, you seem be implying it's something which can be ignored for the time being, but I think everyone even now should think hard before deciding they want 4+ children.

Of course, this shouldn't scare people from having at least 1-2 kids. A friend of mine also has three older siblings, and it's a pretty well-educated and awesome family. So just to clarify, I don't think having a lot of kids is bad except for the fact that it brings us closer to our carrying capacity, EDIT: if a signifacant number of people are having 4+ children that is.

Oh, no, I don't think it should be ignored (just saw your edit, too). XD

Like I said, I think if someone can support that many kids, then go ahead at the moment (or at least, that's what I meant, ha). But there are a lot of families with many kids who are just making it or just plain can't. I know my parents were pushing it with me (3/3), so I get that. If you're past your own family's capacity, then you're probably not helping at all.

Though, from what I understand, most people either can't, don't need, or don't want to have that many kids anymore anyway (what with many countries past the "kids as family workers" stage) and find "ways around" contraception without having oodles of kids.

[Sorrows Neptune]

I should really get over that habit of editing my posts a lot...

You have a point there. Even so, you seem be implying it's something which can be ignored for the time being, but I think everyone even now should think hard before deciding they want 4+ children.

Of course, this shouldn't scare people from having at least 1-2 kids. A friend of mine also has three older siblings, and it's a pretty well-educated and awesome family. So just to clarify, I don't think having a lot of kids is bad except for the fact that it brings us closer to our carrying capacity, EDIT: if a signifacant number of people are having 4+ children that is.

Oh, no, I don't think it should be ignored (just saw your edit, too). XD

Like I said, I think if someone can support that many kids, then go ahead at the moment (or at least, that's what I meant, ha). But there are a lot of families with many kids who are just making it or just plain can't. I know my parents were pushing it with me (3/3), so I get that. If you're past your own family's capacity, then you're probably not helping at all.

Though, from what I understand, most people either can't, don't need, or don't want to have that many kids anymore anyway (what with many countries past the "kids as family workers" stage) and find "ways around" contraception without having oodles of kids.

Oh, okay. In that case I completely agree with you.

[SuperBiasedMan]

I'm pretty sure there are actually plenty of resources for us to survive with increased population...if humans weren't so damned wasteful.

Also, 4/5 children is a large family?
HahahahaIamnotmockingyouIjustcomefromafamilywithtenchildrenandbeforeyouasknowereprotestantnotcatholichahahaha.

Regardless, the original point of the anti birth control stance is valid, but isn't that still true of catholicism?