User Data
agnosis
I'm a Swedish comics creator who have drawn comics and written stories since I was a child. My main interest besides comics is greek mythology, which inspires many of my own comics. I've also done historical as well as realistic and autobiographical comics. I publish my own fanzine, Agnosis. Some of my inspiration comes from Carla Speed McNeil (Finder), Eric Shanower (Age of Bronze), Tinet Elmgren (Driftwood) and Sussie Bech (Nofret).

Other interests are religion/mythology, history, literature, philosophy and drinking tea. I listen mostly to synth and chiptunes and am very fond of old 8-bit video games.
  • Real Name
    Li Österberg
  • Gender
    Female
Send Message
@Ben: Sure. It sounds like it could be an interesting book. My email is liosterberg@hotmail.com.

(Since I spend most of my time drawing and planning my comic, it may take me some time to get through a whole book, though. ^^;)
Dionysos’ talk about frogs is of course a little reference to Aristophanes’ The Frogs, but also to the modern musical adaption of the play from 2004 with songs written by Stephen Sondheim. In the original play Dionysos is mostly just annoyed by the frogs’ song, but in the modern musical the frogs are a much bigger threat.
@AzrielEver: He was getting too relaxed in her company. XD
Back to Hades and Persephone and the sanctuary of Dionysos in the Marshes.
Well, Demeter, depending on who you ask Persephone can actually be quite scary.

According to Pausanias, the Arkadians claimed that Demeter’s unwilling union with Poseidon produced a daughter as well as the horse Arion. This daughter was called Despoina (the Mistress) in public: "This Mistress the Arcadians worship more than any other god, declaring that she is a daughter of Poseidon and Demeter. Mistress is her surname among the many, just as they surname Demeter’s daughter by Zeus the Maid (Kore). But whereas the real name of the Maid is Persephone, as Homer and Pamphos before him say in their poems, the real name of the Mistress I am afraid to write to the uninitiated" (Pausanias, Description of Greece 8.37.9).

Jennifer Larson says in Ancient Greek cults: A Guide that Despoina seems to have been an older Arkadian goddess who had a strong affinity with Artemis. I didn’t include Despoina in my story since it would have complicated things too much. It just wasn’t believable that my version of Demeter would have given away the baby that was not a horse.
@AzrielEver: Yeah. He's still had a pretty good life, though.
@cornchipwarrior: Glad you like it! ^^
@AzrielEver: I imagine her to be one of the more philanthropic gods in the Olympian family.
@AzrielEver: Yeah, the dark under the eyes really made the resemblance clearer.
@AzrielEver: Good question. It maybe could work if either Athena was a bit drunk at that party, or if the competition rather was about power than beauty (I think that George O'Connor had that take on it in his book "Aphrodite, Goddess of Love").
Demeter is of course far from recovered, but to the Arkadians she has now become Lousia, The Purified One.
According to the myth, it was Pan who happened to find Demeter when he was roaming the mountains of Arkadia. Pan told Zeus, who sent the Moirai (the Fates) to the angry and grieving goddess. Demeter listened to the Moirai and restored the earth’s fertility. After that Persephone is not mentioned again, which is a further indication that the two stories (Demeter’s search for Persephone and Arion’s conception) originally didn’t belong together.

I couldn’t use Pan in my version since he is not born yet when this takes place. And I wanted to leave it open whether the Moirai really exist or not. Some believe they do, others don’t, but no one has really seen them. This may seem like an odd decision of me, considering that the world of Greek mythology is pretty much ruled by destiny, but I think it makes my stories more interesting to add this uncertainty. And of course, to have Hekate in this story was a great way to show how her friendship (and later romance) with Demeter started.
@Ben: Oh, yeah, I will. ^^
I was inspired to give Demeter Erinys/Demeter Melaina snaky hair after I learned that Demeter’s Archaic wooden statue in her cave at Phigaleia looked quite unusual. Pausanias was given a description of it (it had been destroyed long before he visited Phigaleia): "It was seated on a rock, like to a woman in all respects save the head. She had the head and hair of a horse, and there grew out of her head images of serpents and other beasts. Her tunic reached right to her feet; on one of her hands was a dolphin, on the other a dove" (Pausanias, Description of Greece 8.42.4).

Jennifer Larson means that this Demeter is a Mistress of Animals and has close affinities with the gorgon Medusa, who similarly sported snaky hair, mated with Poseidon, and gave birth to a miraculous horse (Pegasos). This part of the story, a miraculous horse sired by Poseidon upon a goddess closely concerned with fertility, seems to be very old and was originally probably not a part of the story of Demeter’s search for her daughter. Arion’s conception and birth was also told in the lost epic Thebais, usually dated to the seventh or sixth century BCE. There the goddess is only called Erinys, which was also the name of an old Mycenaean goddess (e-ri-nu in Linear B). Jennifer Larson suggests: "The Arkadian cults of Demeter resulted from a complex process combining the old Mycenaean goddess Erinys, who was early on linked to Poseidon Hippios and whose offspring was a horse, with the Panhellenic and Eleusinian Demeter who bore a daughter" (Ancient Greek Cults: A Guide by Jennifer Larson).
According to this Arkadian myth the rape happened when Demeter was wandering all over Greece in search of her daughter Persephone, who had been kidnapped by Hades. Afterwards, angry with Poseidon and grieved at the loss of her daughter, Demeter dressed in black and hid in a cave in Mount Elaios. In my story this happened before Persephone was born, so instead it is the loss of her mortal lover Iasion that adds to Demeter’s depression (and by placing it before Persephone’s birth, it works as a sort of explanation to why Demeter is quite overprotective of her daughter).
This scene was very difficult. This myth is one of the few cases in Greek mythology where there’s no question about what happened. It was a rape, and I didn’t want to take that away. But to keep it and not demonizing Poseidon completely was not easy.
@Ben: Yeah, if they had changed into horses because they both thought that it would be sexy to make love like that, then I'd have no problems with it.
@Ben: I know it's not so very evident yet, but the problem with what is going to happen between Demeter and Poseidon is the lack of consent, not anything else.
@frigid: This flashback is supposed to take place during the bronze age, yes.
@AzrielEver: I have to say that I don't look forward to draw the next following pages.