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@Oly-RRR: Yeah, I feel like I know a bunch of you already just from lurking around. I just feel like I don't have much to say without my comic being decently along. Or like people may not take me seriously because so many new comics don't make it very far. I don't want to just burst in until I've actually got something to show, kwim? I'm fairly talkative (if you can't tell) so I'll definitely be participating soon.

Well, your planning process sounds a bit more together than mine does, but I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who is largely pantsing this thing. The part you said about new details and events popping up - I'm relying on that happening pretty heavily. Otherwise I'll keep plugging in the general direction I know I need to head in.

And I'm not like these kids either. I only just recently got a cell phone. Agreed that there is nothing particularly "wrong" with these things, but... sometimes I just feel like the world is so shallow these days.
@Oly-RRR: Technically I guess it kind of is spying, isn't it? I do intend to become active on the forums, but I wanted to wait until I get around 10 pages or so done. I don't know why. Cause I'm weird I guess. I just want to fly under the radar until I get a little solid footing, and then I'll make myself known.

I can definitely see how the changes you've been considering would be a relief, then, if it was split between what you want and for the reader. It might be some work but I bet it will be much better (and more satisfying) when you have it the way you want it. I don't even have a script. I have a general idea of what I want to happen. Minor plot points are currently nonexistent. I script one page, draw, color, finish it. Script the next, draw, color finish. Probably not the smart way to go, but I just really wanted to get started instead of spending the next ?? weeks plotting/planning.

I'm relying on new ideas/spinoffs coming to me as I go along, as they tend to do, to create interesting plot points.

My niece... hmmm.. "considers" herself beyond her age. Very into social media, and very taken with the world. A social butterfly, very trendy. So yup, she did that. I don't think an 11 year old should be doing that either (nor a 30 year old for that matter. DUMB!)
@Oly-RRR: I decided to go ahead and move the conversation onto the next page. I figure I will probably look back on this 3 pages from now and wish I hadn't done the bars and chibis, and want to redo. So might as well do it now!

Yes, I've seen your situation on the forums (I lurk there often). It's so hard. I like to write a lot and I was always making changes to my earlier chapters. I can imagine it must be a lot harder when they are all drawings. I know what you mean about it being a relief though, once you come to terms with it.

Haha the ice bucket challenge is a joke compared to the Kardashian one. I'll spare you the details. Well, I'll say my 11 year old niece tried it and ended up with bruises all over her face, so hey. Though it is nothing compared to the previously mentioned challenges (now removed for the next page).
@Oly-RRR: I'm like you, I dislike chibi, manga, anime, whatever it is all called. But I've seen it done well in other comics. I wanted it to look like sort of a back and forth quick banter, which is why I did it in bars rather than drawings.

Okay, I'll admit it. A little laziness crept in there as well. You're right, it would probably look better to just give it panels. Or maybe just extend the one, add the other character and make them speech bubbles.

Perhaps a project for another day. I already want to redo at least panel 1 on page 1. However, I have made my peace with page 2 and don't mind it so much now. I'm trying not to get sucked into the redo loop.

Have you heard of those games before? I was going to mention the Kim Kardashian one, but decided it would be best if I not use any real person's name in this. Such dumb things these challenges are.
@erzadel: thanks for your input! I'll draw the heads tonight then. You thinking it was the TV (or something) is exactly what I was afraid of!

I'm glad you like it! My updates are a little slow due to lots of distraction around here... but I'm thinking once I get a little further in I'll be able to update more quickly.
Character consistency is such a pain. So are poses that people put themselves into every day (panel 1), and yet nobody snaps a photo of this sit-in-progress for reference!

I'm quite pleased with myself, though, for getting 8 panels into this page without it feeling super crowded.
@Oly-RRR: He's a great cat! And it was a 100% vertical ladder. LOL! Which is why it has always impressed me.

I know what you mean about the backgrounds. Still, I can't shake my dislike for the page. Maybe I will redo the two bottom panels with the dog at some point. Those are the only ones I really have issue with. The shading is so messed up. Really, the dog's face should be shaded in panel 4, but I quickly realized that wouldn't be good with the solid black, so now it's just "off" looking.

Yes, so much anime! I'm always surprised how many I see directing us to read right to left. And so much BL. So much. Last I looked at the front page, 6 out of 10 had BL in the banner. I've found a few I like, but I am really surprised its such a BIG thing around here!
@Oly-RRR: thanks! That last panel remains my favorite so far. It must have just been a fluke, because I haven't done one so good since.
@Oly-RRR: yeah, I know what you mean! They only time people shut up at all is when they're looking at their phones. To be fair, that is about 85% of the time these days.
@Oly-RRR: yes! All the dogs I've had have known me as the boss. They don't listen to a word my husband says. My cat, meanwhile, has attached himself to my son and even climbs the bunk bed ladder to be with him.

I'm really glad you like Kelvin! He is the best guy.

I've been struggling with the look for this. Page 2 has so much shading. It looks so busy. I don't know if its the shading or the many backgrounds. But I don't know how to do without the backgrounds... not on drawings like that, where they are not close up! I can hardly draw Elka growling at nothing, for instance. I think the combination of backgrounds plus heavy shading worked against me. I like this page much better. I'll probably keep experimenting with bg's.

Heh, sorry for the novel! I was so excited to have a comment. I didn't think anyone would even look at this until I was 10-20 pages in.
Quite late on this...

But here is Kelvin, my main character. I've come to adore him. He is the sweetest fellow. Overweight, a little. Sarcastic, obviously. He loves his mom and his dog. I consider Kelvin to be biracial - that is, he is Hispanic (father) and white (mother).

So I went much easier on the black shading this page. It looks a lot cleaner, no? Part of my delay with this page was spending several days pondering page 2, and what it was I disliked about it. I really like the solid black shading, but I'm inexperienced with it and need to find the right balance. I think it's safe to say Page 2 was definitely too much.
No, it's not a canine comic.

But after spending a long while floundering over forced conversation between my characters to try to set the scene, I had the brilliant idea to begin from the POV of the family dog. This has solved my problem. The scene can set its own self around her whilst she does her thing. This feels good and right, and it's a lot more fun to draw (and, I would imagine, read) than jumping straight into talking heads. How great are dogs?

So meet Elka. Her sixth sense is speaking up right now, and her little dog brain is trying to make sense of it. Of course, it doesn't make sense at all - she just knows that something is going to happen. Isn't she sweet?

There is a strong likelihood that this page will be redone at some point. I just do not like it. If you are seeing this message, then it hasn't been fixed yet.