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Violent comics influence killers? Real life Violence?

Postby JillyFoo » December 22nd, 2012, 8:33 pm

I've been watching the news a lot recently and something came to mind: What if after the forensics team fixes the computer of the killer(who will not be named) they find out he was reading your (violent or adult content) webcomic?

How would you feel? Does it prove anything? Would the recent events on the news change the way you write adult/violent content?

How do you feel about the NRA talking about censoring more violence in our society at large?
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Re: Violent comics influence killers? Real life Violence?

Postby InnocentGuillotine » December 22nd, 2012, 8:39 pm

It would prove nothing except that the media (and a lot of other people) wants to blame everything except the things about society that led to the killings. Censorship isn't the answer; if someone can't tell the difference between real life and fiction, they're more likely to not get that life isn't Looney Toons and act from that angle, not go from a violent comic that in all likelyhood shows people suffering from violence. And since I strongly doubt that they're targeting cartoons, it's basically flailing attempts to shift the blame from shoddy gun control and nearly nonexistant mental health support structures to new media.

You know, like pretty much every single other time this has happened.
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Re: Violent comics influence killers? Real life Violence?

Postby MadTarnsman » December 22nd, 2012, 8:46 pm

I don't think it would make a damned bit of difference AND, further, the NRA didn't advocate any censorship but rather went into a chiding tirade against Hollywood....which is filled with leftist rectums and support Dear Leader and therefore are anti gun...for their reckless portrayals of guns, violence, gore, horror and pretty much everything else you could think of.

When was the last time you heard of or saw the age restrictions on the Motion Picture Code being enforced??

If you're influenced into mass killings by a webcomic, even it were mine, a movie, an episode of The View then you're a sick puppy and the show itself isn't the problem.

Ever notice how guns are ALWAYS the problem?? The guy's obviously as crazy as a shithouse rat but it's the gun's fault. A couple decades ago a guy ripped off some pipe bombs in Atlanta at the Olympics. Did you hear this much roar and fervor over that??? Was there a ban in plumbing supplies??

No. Most Americans are fence post stupid and know nothing about guns. I was literally raised around them in a rural environment.....they're tools to me just like a circular saw which is ALSO dangerous. They're ignorant of that which they want to ban, forgetting about how Prohibition worked out and the DEA can't stop truckloads of dope from crossing the Mexican border everyday....they're stupid enough to think bans work. Of course, they also voted The Shrunken Head another term.

Did you study socialism in school? I hope so....enough to recognize it because the Nazi Express is roaring out of Washington. Oddly, the Left is responsible for loosening mental health laws and emptying some of the asylums/hospitals/bugbins where these crazy people should be.

Then there's individual responsibility. The kid's mother was a doomsday prepper.....*insert major eyeroll*...and had quite the arsenal. Why weren't here weapons secured especially when she knew she had a special needs child that could be dangerous? A kid she told a former babysitter to never turn her back on??

In closing, I can give you the URL to a few stories where an armed individual STOPPED robberies, mass shootings and other acts of mayhem. Don't hear about those, do ya? Know why? It's because our Mainstream Media, the MSM, leans so far left they look like NASCAR drivers and cover nothing that doesn't favor Democrats and liberals.
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Re: Violent comics influence killers? Real life Violence?

Postby JillyFoo » December 22nd, 2012, 9:19 pm

I think that Japanese comics have some of the most violent content (and the media) but you don't hear too much about mass shootings there.

I don't see guns as bad. I have gun use in my comics. I just don't see the usefulness of assault guns in real life compared to other guns.

Guns in comics and movies? I think it's fun seeing over the top action movies and comics. I know its not real. I hate the idea that people want to get rid of shooter games, or stories with violence.

I like the idea of having stories have whatever content in them, limiting age groups that can view it, and not having non military/police people have access to the most destructive weapons.
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Re: Violent comics influence killers? Real life Violence?

Postby UrbanMysticDee » December 22nd, 2012, 9:27 pm

People die left and right in just about everything I've written and none of the people who read any of my shit ever turned into killers. I grew up on the best (and worst) the bloodier and gorier 80s films hollywood moguls could throw at me and I've never killed anyone. Thing is, I was raised right. I knew there was a difference between fact and fiction. The problem today is few people are raised right, and some city kids aren't raised at all, so they don't know nothing and are living in the "I don't care" world. What we have here is a problem of a society with too few values, not a society with too many guns.
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Re: Violent comics influence killers? Real life Violence?

Postby Savoto » December 22nd, 2012, 9:33 pm

If that were to ever happen to me I would trash the comic or put it on hiatus for a year or two. That stigma would kill any chances of the webcomic becoming anything but infamous years after the event. No webcomic artist, videogame developer, or movie director should feel at fault because the shooter did what he did of his own free-will. Taking every single violent piece of media thing out of existence would still leave people who will commit violence crimes anyway. Yes media effects people but it doesn't control there minds. The fault lies with the murderer.

In my opinion the NRA has no idea what they are talking about. They are trying to defend their guns and can't see beyond that. Stricter gun laws should be in effect not more censorship.
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Re: Violent comics influence killers? Real life Violence?

Postby robybang » December 22nd, 2012, 9:47 pm

I think the NRA needed something to blame since it's difficult to defend gun rights after someone shoots up a school of children. And violent video games and media are the other major boogeyman that gets tossed around after a major school shooting. However, it's largely a red herring since it's impossible to prove that it's the reason for their violent behavior. Sure you can find violent media at a killer's house. You can also find violent media in millions of houses across America. Using that logic, you could argue that ground beef causes aggression because they found it in the killer's house. Even if they did find a correlation, it isn't like they could prove that it caused their behavior. It could be that a person who is already aggressive is drawn to violent media because they enjoy seeing violence.

But I think the question was how I would react to a crazed killer looking at my material and how I would respond to the backlash. I'd probably say nothing for a while and keep a low profile. In the wake of a tragedy, everyone goes into panic mode and can't think straight. Writing the stuff I just wrote in the paragraph above wouldn't convince people making knee-jerk decisions on how to make sure bad things never happen ever. After everything settled down, I'd try to calmly explain my stance and probably find studies and evidence that prove my claim.
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Re: Violent comics influence killers? Real life Violence?

Postby Jeremy Ray » October 12th, 2016, 10:59 pm

I put a lot of violent imagery in my first comic and I found I could hardly keep up with the stuff being done in real life. Don't worry about it, the South American drug cartels will always have you beat. Always.
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Re: Violent comics influence killers? Real life Violence?

Postby mg78 » March 13th, 2017, 5:56 am

everything can influece who is on the path to be influenced. quite easy to me.
if some1 want to do something very bad, it's just a matter of time before something happen.
that's it.

give the guilt to the violence in movie/comic/games it's a commonplace, a cliché. and this mean that its so stupid that it's too much embarrassing. really.

using this way of think we could say:
well, Hitler was influenced by Nietzsche.
this mean to avoid disaster like that we have to ban philosopy, cultural critic & poetry.

this s the plot used for gaming, mosic, movie, comic and so on.
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Re: Violent comics influence killers? Real life Violence?

Postby Indagold » August 19th, 2017, 6:49 pm

I'd think it was pretty metal...

...haha nah I think I wouldn't have strong opinions either way. I'd just assume that the murderer probably only focused on what they would like to see from a piece of work in order to fit their own warped view points and I would find mainstream media blowing things out proportion. I would never apologize for what they did or delete my work. At most I would tell the families I fully support them and wish for the best.
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Re: Violent comics influence killers? Real life Violence?

Postby Randomladyaj » October 23rd, 2017, 9:46 pm

JillyFoo wrote:I've been watching the news a lot recently and something came to mind: What if after the forensics team fixes the computer of the killer(who will not be named) they find out he was reading your (violent or adult content) webcomic?

How would you feel? Does it prove anything? Would the recent events on the news change the way you write adult/violent content?

How do you feel about the NRA talking about censoring more violence in our society at large?


IMO, If he was reading my violent comic, he most likely would have been watching violent movies, videos etc too. I would feel disappointed but it doesn't prove that my webcomic caused him to go out on a killing spree. As humans killing is something that we've been doing from the beginning of time. No I wouldn't change because I believe that stories and art are just an interpretation of real life and violence is apart of real life. Yes I do believe that media does influence people sometimes but the majority of the time real life is influenced by media. I will be honest, I do like violence in my cartoons, movies, webcomics, or etc and I would be upset it was censored, but I hate real life violence.
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